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Pianos in bad condition in Singapore

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Topic: Pianos in bad condition in Singapore
Posted By: StevenKoh
Subject: Pianos in bad condition in Singapore
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2018 at 3:39pm
What’s the worst condition that a piano can be damaged to? Due to humidity problem in Singapore, pianos are easy to get mouldy, rusty, sticky... Here’s some pianos in bad condition that I have met in Singapore.





Strings rusty and broken, clothes inside mouldy



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Posted By: StevenKoh
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2018 at 3:41pm
 

Strings rusty and broken


Posted By: StevenKoh
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2018 at 3:48pm
 Hammers stained and mouldy


Posted By: StevenKoh
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2018 at 3:59pm
This is a very old model, metal parts rusty, hammers overused and sticky






Posted By: StevenKoh
Date Posted: 14 Oct 2018 at 6:57pm
KAWAI grand piano, strings rusty and broken






Posted By: JLLim
Date Posted: 15 Oct 2018 at 4:59pm
Can these pianos be restored? The manpower cost in Singapore is not cheap. I saw someone provide piano disposal service. Maybe arranging disposal is the only choice eventually


Posted By: luluchin
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 9:08am
Many old pianos are now being dumped, abandoned, neglected, smashed - even burnt. Why is this happening, and should we care?




Posted By: StevenKoh
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 9:10am
Loosening the strings, and separating the wood from the metal takes around 10 hours. If a piano has really been neglected it might have attracted rats or mice, who like to eat the animal glue used to hold it together and nuzzle up to the felt, meaning that hantavirus - a deadly disease spread by rodents - is a danger.

But it is well worth the bother, argues Hirschfelder. The strings for example are made of high grade steel, and are so strong they can be used as cables for airplanes.

The keys are made of ebony and ivory, which he has seen made into jewellery, artwork - even exclusive tiling around swimming pools.

Pianos are often not made of solid wood, but have a thick wood veneer instead, and this is still worth saving and re-using.

Some people make furniture of it, but this is usually done on a small-scale piece by piece basis.

Where Hirschfelder lives wood recycling services are not available, so it is often burned or turned into wood chip to scatter on gardens.



Posted By: personal
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 9:14am
Even those who take a business-like approach to piano disposal and regularly throws out pianos which are beyond repair, don't always feel happy about it.

"I'm not going to tell them I'm going to chop it up and put it in a hopper. It's an emotional thing. "



Posted By: gushiwen
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 9:15am
The piano is like a form of expression, and all of a sudden, you're dealing in a strange situation.
All those pianos had somebody happy at some time, even if only for a moment. Did the piano smile?


Posted By: StevenKoh
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 11:53am
piano hammer felt drop






Posted By: doraleo
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 11:58am
My piano's hammer felts got problem and been glued two years ago.
Now some hammer heads can not been released from the strings when a note is played with a hard touch, why?


Posted By: personal
Date Posted: 17 Oct 2018 at 12:00pm
Originally posted by doraleo doraleo wrote:

My piano's hammer felts got problem and been glued two years ago.
Now some hammer heads can not been released from the strings when a note is played with a hard touch, why?


The action is very complicated. There are parts I won’t get technical) that are involved in launching the hammer towards the string that should fall away and just catch the hammer on its way back so you can repeat notes quickly. If the action is old and worn, or dirty, those parts might stick when struck hard because they don't move the way they should. They would then wedge the mechanism and prevent the hammer returning.

Probably because it’s so badly notched that it got trapped between the strings, in which case the felt needs replacing. A tuner can temporarily cure the problem using toning needles.
The needles are stuck into the felt to break it up a little. Compacted felt in the notches can be eased, but it won’t last long. It’s not the primary use of toning needles - they’re for even out the sound between the hammers - but it does help when a hammer gets sticky in a very old and hard-played instrument.


Posted By: StevenKoh
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2018 at 5:13pm




Posted By: StevenKoh
Date Posted: 08 Dec 2018 at 5:16pm


Posted By: StevenKoh
Date Posted: 16 Dec 2018 at 9:19pm
Even the piano was specially designed for tropical area, if it was not maintained well, the piano would spoil.





Posted By: StevenKoh
Date Posted: 29 Dec 2018 at 3:21pm
This piano is an old model. Some painting was chipped off. And all the strings were rusty.







Posted By: StevenKoh
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2019 at 11:16am




Posted By: StevenKoh
Date Posted: 12 Jan 2019 at 11:42am




Posted By: StevenKoh
Date Posted: 18 Mar 2019 at 12:32pm
Outer surface of the piano was damaged, painting chipped out, very old piano





Posted By: StevenKoh
Date Posted: 28 May 2019 at 8:18am




Posted By: StevenKoh
Date Posted: 01 Jun 2019 at 7:56am
This is quite an old piano in crazy big size. All the keys’ color changed to yellow
However, some people thought these pianos are antiques and would like to collect them.





Posted By: StevenKoh
Date Posted: 14 Jun 2019 at 2:28pm



After cleaning and putting mothballs to protect the keyboard from worms


Posted By: StevenKoh
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2019 at 8:47am
The piano is very old and looks overused, strings rusty, condition not good





Posted By: JLLim
Date Posted: 13 Jul 2019 at 2:26pm
Please take a look at this antique piano




Posted By: StevenKoh
Date Posted: 15 Jul 2019 at 6:32pm
Just checked one YAMAHA piano, Heater is off, inside very dirty, silent pedal broken, some keys sticky





Posted By: StevenKoh
Date Posted: 14 Aug 2019 at 6:12pm
This YAMAHA piano looks very nice from outside, but inside really bad







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